Osama Died and Obama Lied

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Okay, I’m willing to believe there was a Navy Seal unit raid on the mansion in Abbottabad, Pakistan, which is a stones throw from one of their largest military bases. I’m also willing to believe that they killed three Muslim men and one woman. There is enough media hype and cyberspace chatter to be convincing. It’s much harder to perpetrate an elaborate hoax these days like the movie, “Wag the Dog.” However, that’s where I have to draw the line. Not that I think that Osama is still at large. If he were, I’m quite sure that after three days he would have shown himself on AL Jazeera if only to make the American administration look really stupid. What enemy could resist such an opportunity to humiliate his foes?

Yet, the press conference announcements, stories and public speeches leave us with unanswered questions. First, Osama was firing at the attackers and hid behind one of his wives who was also shot dead. Then the story changed to her being shot in the leg while trying to shield Osama from the bullets. The dead woman was somebody downstairs who got caught in the crossfire between two of Osama’s men and the Seals. Then the Navy ceremoniously dumps the body into the sea and the administration

spokesman claims they made a positive identification but Obama won’t let anybody look at the pictures. The Secretary of Defense, the Press Secretary and Obama all claim that they verified the dead guy’s identity with DNA and that makes Obama 99.9% certain that it’s Osama, but he won’t show the test result.

There’s the rub. The DNA match is an obvious lie. To have a match with that much certainty they have to have a fool proof DNA profile of Osama taken some time before the raid. The best they could come up with is an approximation profile by using DNA samples from his siblings, most of whom are half siblings, nephews, nieces and cousins.

 Therefore, based on family gene pool, they can’t say with any degree of certainty whether they killed Osama or one of his half brothers, cousins, uncles or nephews. Hence, if we are catching Obama in such an obvious lie, how can we believe anything he or his cronies are telling us.

In conclusion, it’s difficult to believe that Obama would be stupid enough to take credit for Osama’s death unless he had absolute knowledge of Osama’s demise or he had total control over him in a secret place of detention. Nonetheless, it doesn’t take a genius to realize that the whole thing about Obama giving the order to take out Osama was a farce. Most likely Osama was already on a slab waiting to be picked up by our guys. The fact is that nine years ago Osama fled Afghanistan into Pakistan and has been hiding there successfully ever since. Our government couldn’t find him until the Osama’s henchmen gave up his body after he died of natural causes. How embarrassing is that? The DNA bubbamises is a feeble attempt to divert attention from the real story that Osama’s people made a deal to hand over his body for the 25 million dollar reward and other considerations. Obama needed the drama because his approval ratings have been in the toilet so he staged the phony raid after receiving proof that the carcass was really Osama’s. Getting rid of the body in quick time, claiming to have DNA verification, announcing that there are classified video footage and photographs and then refusing to show this so-called evidence all leads me to conclude that if they had Osama’s body it was already decomposed to the extent that everyone could see that Osama had been dead for much more than a couple of hours

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  1. elisabbath

    i applaud your courage in posting this piece and admire your questioning intellect for creating it! i told my mother that it was probably some of his family members who were killed, in reference to the “dna match.” it’s still a slaughter and a bizarre occurrence i don’t fully understand. i enjoyed your plausible deduction that the body could have been handed over for the reward by bin laden sympathizers or aids after he had already died of natural causes. that would certainly help to explain the hasty “burial at sea.” i honestly am having trouble understand why people cannot put two and two together to make four.obama’s popularity is falling, the nation is unemployed and people are bankrupt. yet the only people he has helped are wall street tycoons and gay servicemen who want to give their lives for these wars and conflicts he is perpetuating. so he desperately needed a giant show of patriotism to stir the masses and distract them away from all their domestic discord. my father used to tell me”tell the truth, honey, it’s a lot easier to keep your story straight.” i guess no one ever told that to the military or the CIA. 😉 nice blog and enjoy your health and healing website!

    • moshesharon

      Thank you Elisabbath. It seems we have a president who enjoys creating controversy and further dividing the American people. It does provide short term self-serving political advantage to call attention away from the administration’s incompetence. I call it the “Obama Drama.”

  2. johnnybravo01720

    I have one correction to your article. You said “The best they could come up with is an approximation profile by using DNA samples from his siblings, most of whom are half siblings, nephews, nieces and cousins” well that in inaccurate. Mohammed bin laden and Hamidia al-Attas had ONE child together, that was Osama bin laden. So ALL of his siblings would have been half siblings

  3. boudicabpi

    More questions than answers. My friend JC puts it in perspective. Feel free to comment or re post.

    http://boudicabpi.wordpress.com/2011/05/06/confused-about-osama-obama-and-the-dead-osama/

    Just to make sure I have the story straight…
    1) There was a firefight.
    2) There was no firefight.
    3) Bin Laden was “resisting.”
    4) Bin Laden wasn’t armed. (Makes the concept of “resisting” interesting.)
    [4.a) And the newest one: the SEALS thought bin Laden was reaching for a weapon.]
    5) He used his wife as a shield.
    6) His wife was killed too.
    7) He didn’t use his wife as a shield. She ran at a SEAL who shot her in the leg, but she’s fine.
    8 ) Some other woman — the maid? — was used as a shield. By somebody. Downstairs.
    9) That other woman — downstairs — was killed.
    10) Maybe not. She was killed unless she wasn’t — and who was she, anyway?
    11) Bin Laden’s son was killed.
    12) Unless it was some other guy.
    13) Bin Laden’s daughter saw him get killed. She’s undoubtedly traumatized, poor dear.
    14) They were going to capture Bin Laden until the problem with the helicopter, which was:
    …..A) It had mechanical trouble
    …..B) It did a hard landing
    …..C) It crashed
    …..D) It clipped a wall with a tail rotor, effectively a crash
    15.) They were never going to try to capture him; it was always a kill mission.
    16.) No, it wasn’t.
    17) The chopper blew up.
    18) The SEALs blew it up.
    19.) Panetta said yesterday the world needed proof and the photo would be released.
    20.) Obama said today in an interview he taped with Steve Kroft for “60 Minutes” to be broadcast Sunday that it won’t be released. It’s too gruesome, would offend Muslim sensibilities (something he worries about a lot — I personally do not give a warm fart on a wet Wednesday about Muslim sensibilities), and how would Americans feel if Muslims released pictures of dead Americans?
    21.) Kroft — who’s not a total idiot — pointed out that ever since “Black Hawk Down” days, Muslims have been doing precisely that, filming American bodies being dragged through the streets, filming Daniel Pearl’s head being cut off, filming any and everything.
    22) Obama gets pissed at CBS, the tape gets cleaned up, that question disappears. (Inside info.)
    23.) We got a “treasure trove” of stuff from hard drives, etc.
    24.) There were no phone lines, and no internet access at the “mansion,” they didn’t even have TV — what “treasure trove?”
    25.) There is obviously in the pictures of the place a large satellite dish. I guess they used it for making salads.
    26.) And now, just today: apparently the idea was to capture him, but only if he was naked. There was a suspicion he might be wearing a suicide bomber type explosive vest, or belt. So if he’s not naked and you can’t see if he has a vest on or not – shoot him.
    27) The administration watched a live video feed of the operation.
    28) There was no live video feed of the operation.
    29) Osama is in no way a Muslim nor a leader.
    30) We must show Osama the respect we’d show any Muslim leader.
    Confused yet?

    Bob A.

  4. moshesharon

    deeperezscott : Clearly you are attempting to discredit our President, you are calling him a Liar, and you are clearly on the side of the terrorists. How UnAmerican of you!

    Your argument is plain silly. You are arguing against yourself.

    Moshe: Obama discredited himself with changing scenarios and an obvious lie about a 99.9% DNA match with those of relatives, which is impossible. Prove me wrong and come up with an explanation of where the Osama DNA profile came from.

    deeperezscott: Your Argument:
    1. Bin Laden Not Dead: You say there is no way to prove Bin Laden is dead because we do NOT have any DNA to match against it.

    Moshe: The truth is that the reports were initially very confusing. If you go by DNA alone, there is no proof the the body that was secretly dumped into the ocean within hours of it being obtained was in fact Osama Bin Laden. Obama says that it was and we only have his word for it and he refuses to show any of the evidence. However, there is also the fact that Obama isn’t appearing anywhere to show us up, so while there is no visible proof of Osama’s death, I am willing to believe that he is dead. There is, however, a huge question as to how he died. If not for the DNA lie, I would have believed the White House scenario. But Obama and his handlers are liars. There is no contradiction on part.

    deeperezscott: 2. Bin Laden IS Dead: Then you say he was already dead and you create (in your own mind) this huge, nutty scenario in which Bin Laden has been dead for years and his own people turned in his dead body over to the US for the $25M Reward.

    Moshe: I make the assumption that Osama is indeed dead because he hasn’t appeared on TV to show himself to be still alive. My nutty scenario is just as good as anyone else’s. I refuse to believe the nutty scenario coming from the White House because they lied about the DNA. Why would they need to lie to bolster their story? There is also the fact that the Secretary Blake told one story and the press secretary told another. Then they came out with a third scenario which differed from the first two.

    deeperezscott: I laughed out loud at your Fake premise. Just Imagine! His own people walked over to the CIA…knock, knock, knock.

    Bin Laden Family: “Hello there. Our Leader Osama Bin Laden has died. We want to give you his dead body for the $25M reward. Will you come and pick him up?”

    CIA: “Sure. OK. But you realize how embarrassing this will be for us. How about if we send in our helicopters and we will pick up his body. That way we will save face.”

    Bin Laden Family: “That will be fine. Please be sure to pick him up AFTER the Apprentice and bring along the $25M check.”

    CIA: “Sure Thing! See you Sunday.”

    Moshe: That’s pretty much it, except that I didn’t say anything about the Bin Laden family. I was referring to the Al Qaeda people, who actually announced confirmation that Osama was indeed killed by the Americans. It’s interesting how they actually backed up Obama’s story. So both sides gain propaganda from the fake scenario. Obama improves his ratings and Al Qaeda uses it as a rallying cry to fire up the Arab crazies. Neither side wants to admit that Osama died of natural causes. Stranger things have happened in this world. Just take another drink of Kool Aid and continue believing everything you hear from the Obama administration. Are you that naive that you think that no American president has ever lied?

  5. deeperezscott

    Tom/Moshe,
    I will also point out that your first commenter is NOT an American. Please re-read her post. Notice how she says “the Nation” “the people” instead of Our Nation, Our people.

    It is ok for all people to comment from any nation, however, I point this out because in your response to her you say “We have a President” when clearly she has said Barack Obama is NOT her President.

    • moshesharon

      My my, you are desperate to make everyone wrong, aren’t you? There is nothing in Elisabbath’s comment that says that she is not American. You are making that up. “We have a president. . .” is merely an expression to create a background of relatedness with the readers.

  6. deeperezscott

    Moshe,
    Additionally, how dare you call Our President a Liar! What kind of American are you anyway?
    You have NO PROOF he has Lied. Prove he lied. Then once YOU Prove it, then announce it.
    What you may say is: I suspect there is some suspicion that what he said may not be completely the truth.

    And I would respond: Since the initial announcement came about so quickly after the raid and the media was swarming his spokespeople for comments, of course there may be some early discrepancies. All they say was some initial video and had no time to debrief or analysis the data they retrieved from the sweep of Bin Laden’s residence.

    Without PROOF Moshe, your assumptions are just that, assumptions. You do know what they say about ASSUME = making an ASS out of U and ME.

    Tsk Tsk

    • moshesharon

      deeperezscott: Moshe, Additionally, how dare you call Our President a Liar!

      Moshe: Oh, get over yourself. In fact, chew on this one: Obama ordered that Osama receive a funeral that would show respect to Osama’s followers. He gave aid and comfort to our enemies. How unAmerican is that? So that makes President Obama a traitor to the American people as well as being a liar.

      deeperezscott: What kind of American are you anyway?

      Moshe: I am a loyal American who feels betrayed and sold out by the man elected President. Free speech is a wonderful thing ain’t it? G-d bless America!!!

      deeperezscott: You have NO PROOF he has Lied. Prove he lied. Then once YOU Prove it, then announce it.

      Moshe: I did prove it. Obama said that they had the results of a DNA match with the body proving that the cadaver taken from the compound was Osama’s. They said they matched Osama’s DNA with his half siblings and got a match that was 99.9 % accurate. That is impossible. Therefore, Obama and his cronies are liars.

      deeperezscott: What you may say is: “I suspect there is some suspicion that what he said may not be completely the truth.”

      Moshe: I don’t need you to edit my posts or tell me what I may say. That’s rather presumptuous on your part to say the least. Beside’s which if wrote a sentence like the one you just suggested, I would be too embarrassed to post it. “I suspect that there is some suspicion?” Please!

      deeperezscott: And I would respond: Since the initial announcement came about so quickly after the raid and the media was swarming his spokespeople for comments, of course there may be some early discrepancies. All they say was some initial video and had no time to debrief or analysis the data they retrieved from the sweep of Bin Laden’s residence.

      Moshe: Oh, so you admit that there were discrepancies, but you blame the media people and then say that we should believe the White House press briefings? Okay, which story do you want us to believe, the one about the magic DNA, or that Osama used one of his wives as a human shield and got her killed, or that the wife jumped in front of him voluntarily and caught a bullet in the leg and survived, or one of the other version of what actually happened?

      deeperezscott: Without PROOF Moshe, your assumptions are just that, assumptions. You do know what they say about ASSUME = making an ASS out of U and ME.

      Moshe: Sorry the burden of proof is on Obama. The changing scenarios, false DNA report, dumping the body in the middle of the night and refusing to show one shred of evidence to corroborate at least one of the 28 different stories coming from the same source, leads any thinking person who isn’t guzzling Koolaid to speculate as to what really went down.

      Definition of a Kool Aid drinker: One who believes everything that Obama says.

  7. deeperezscott

    Moshe,
    No. It is your side that drinks the Kool Aid. You are angry. You disrespect our President. You call him a Liar. Yet you reap the gains of this great country of ours.

    Also, I know some Presidents have lied. I think the war in Iraq was wrong. The President and his Administration lied to get us into that wrongful war. I never supported it and still do not. He also destroyed our economy. He also said “Mission Accomplished” on May 1, 2003. Nope. He lied. The Mission wasn’t accomplished until 8 years later, May 1, 2011 by his successor, our President, Barack Obama.

    I feel sorry for you for not Loving our Country and NOT believing the Truth when it is in front of you.
    I believe our President, particularly because he has far too many opponents, even in the military, who would expose any Lies that might be perpetrated in his administration.

    • moshesharon

      Ah, Scott, now I see that it’s only unAmerican to denounce the President as a liar if he is a Democrat. Republican presidents are fair game. You are talking out of both sides of your mouth. Politics is such a dirty game. You have shown that their is no integrity among politicians and their groupies. FYI, I do love my country. Of course anyone who doesn’t agree with you and want to swallow whatever comes from the Obama administration hook, line and sinker is unpatriotic. How sad for you that you proved the famous saying of P.T. Barnum that there’s a sucker born every minute.

  8. moshesharon

    matthewashton says:
    May 8, 2011 at 6:33 pm
    While this is an interesting idea, it’s a conclusion entirely based on gut feeling and assumptions rather than actual evidence. Drawing conclusions based on a lack of evidence of something is usually hugely problematic. That’s not to say that it couldn’t have happened like that, but it seems to me that you’re jumping the gun in assuming that this is the most likely version of events.
    Reply

    moshesharon says:
    May 8, 2011 at 9:29 pm
    That’s just it. Lack of evidence breeds speculation. Moreover, the blatant refusal to show evidence corroborating one’s assertions that a particular scenario occurred, leads to the inescapable conclusion that the assertion is a lie, especially when the asserter claims that such evidence exists. That leaves us wondering what really happened. The only thing that we can agree on is that Osama is indeed dead. How he died is the question that will be the subject of controversy for years to come. I didn’t say that I know the answer. I merely came to my conclusion trying to figure out what scenario would have been somewhat advantageous to both sides of this war. Obama needed to become a hero and Al Qaeda needed a rallying cry to stir-up more anti-American rage.

  9. elisabbath

    LOL! who said i wasn’t american? ha ha ha ha. i’ve never even been out of the country! oh wait–excuse me-“our” country? is that how i am supposed to write it? the furthest i’ve ever been from my home in the sweet sunny south is maine! hee hee. woah. that was strange, dpscott. & thanks for sticking up for me, nurse moshe 🙂

    • moshesharon

      Go girl! That’s the progressive liberal for ya. One who believes that Obama is his Messiah who never lies. Maybe Scott is living in the antimatter world within the Twilight Zone where left is right and right is wrong and reality is the outer reaches of human imagination.

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